Geh.

Feb. 17th, 2005 12:17 pm
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Anyone who tries to tell me -ever- that any of this useless poetry shit is useful? Is full of crap.

USELESS. Why do I need to know this? Wah wah wah, Lenore, wah wah, dead chick, wah wah.
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Date: 2005-02-17 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
Oh, Poe? Sounds cool when read out loud--s' got a nice driving rhythm to it--but yeah, it's pretty much "waaah, my girlfriend left me and now this bird won't let me sit alone in the dark with my horrible life-shattering pain." At least Shakespeare does fart jokes.

You ever see the Simpsons take on "The Raven"? Was for one of the Halloween specials. Homer as the narrator, Bart as the raven.

Date: 2005-02-17 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-wildchild.livejournal.com
Shakespeare does fart jokes? Dude.

.. and no, my folks were kinda uptight about me watching stuff like the Simpsons. Thought it'd get me, you know, in trouble. Funny how that totally wasn't frickin' effective and all.

Date: 2005-02-17 09:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
Yeah, because he was writing stuff for the actual commercial theater--Shakespeare was the seventeenth-century version of a sitcom writer, basically, and the theaters could be closed and everybody put out of a job just basically anytime the nobility felt like screwing them. So the playwrights had to suck up to the nobles like a dehydrated elephant, but at the same time they were getting a lot of their ticket sales out of the common working-class people, so they had to put stuff in to keep them amused, which ended up being a lot of fart jokes, and sex jokes, and stuff like that. Once you get the hang of the language, it's all over the place.

Chaucer did it too--"The Miller's Tale" has this whole sequence where a guy's trying to get a kiss from a girl he likes, and asks her to stick her head out the window so he can kiss her, only she sticks her butt out the window instead and farts in his face. Immortal classics of literature, man. :)

I've got that episode on tape in my room, if you wanna come watch it. Might give you a more fun perspective on the poem.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-sanfuaiyaa.livejournal.com
What, are we missing The Simpsons from our DVD collection?

Date: 2005-02-17 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-cypher.livejournal.com
Fart jokes, sex jokes, all kinds of bathroom humor. The nurse in Romeo and Juliet is totally foul. She makes this whole speech about Juliet fell on her face, and how she would fall on her back if she had more wit. Which is all totally about sex.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
I'm missing it from mine. Bet somebody has it, though, you're right.

Wait, wait wait, you like the Simpsons?

Date: 2005-02-17 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-wildchild.livejournal.com
Poems about scary stuff aren't quite as stupid as reguarl ones, but the rest are -dumb-.

And why can't they just write it in normal English so everyone can frickin understand it? I mean "Wherefor art thou Romeo?" How am I supposed to know that means "Why did your stuipd parents name you Romeo anyway, you big dork?" unless someone told me, and that person had to be told and its just STUPID.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-sanfuaiyaa.livejournal.com
I'd think that it would be in the rec room with the other 73043285895 DVDs.

I have been known to enjoy an episode or two. Is that so hard to believe?

Date: 2005-02-17 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-wildchild.livejournal.com
Oh sure, it makes sense to you.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-wildchild.livejournal.com
Everyone likes the Simpsons.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-cypher.livejournal.com
It has to do with how the language has changed over the hundreds of years since Shakespeare wrote his poems/plays (or whoever claimed to be Shakespeare, if you're into all that Christopher Marlowe conspiracy theory crap). Back in the day, that was how people talked. And yeah, you could update the language, but then you get crappy stuff like that movie based on Othello with Julia Stiles in it.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-cypher.livejournal.com
True, I have a little bit of an advantage, but it's not always just about the language. Sometimes it's about clever plays on words, or hinting at things without really saying them. That's part of comedy even today.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com
It's written that way because it's not meant to be read or enjoyed by certain plebeians.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-wildchild.livejournal.com
Wait, so not only did this guy write all stupid so we can't understand it but he might not have even written it?

Date: 2005-02-17 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-wildchild.livejournal.com
But it doesn't even make SENSE!

Date: 2005-02-17 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com
Or you get Ten Things I Hate About You which is fabulous.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-wildchild.livejournal.com
What's a plebeian? Is that like a lesbian?

Date: 2005-02-17 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-cypher.livejournal.com
True. It's kind of hit or miss.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-cypher.livejournal.com
Um, no. It's a fancy way of saying "common folk". Except that Shakespeare _did_ write for the common folk. It's just that even the common folk used to talk like that back in the day.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-cypher.livejournal.com
Well, there's a whole conspiracy theory that says Shakespeare didn't even exist, that another playwright named Christopher Marlowe actually wrote all of "Shakespeare's" stuff.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-wildchild.livejournal.com
So normal people who weren't totally gay said shit like "Wherefore art thou?"

Man, no -wonder- they got plagues and stuff. They talked like DORKS and were obviously too stupid to make any sense!

Date: 2005-02-17 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com
. . .

Yes, Kyle, a plebeian is like a lesbian.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-wildchild.livejournal.com
Is this like that whole Oliver Stone one bullet thing?

Date: 2005-02-17 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com
Watch it.

Date: 2005-02-17 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-wildchild.livejournal.com
That's not what Ramsey said.
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